05-13-2008, 09:41 AM
It's a funny thing, thinking about raiding in the next expansion. When TBC came out, the officers largely said "enjoy questing again, we won't be in any hurry to jump right back into raiding." Trouble was, not everyone fealt that way. Some raced to 70th as fast as they could and began farming around the clock for the gear to raid. The guild moved apart... and in doing so, quite literally began to move apart.
So when looking ahead at the next expansion, the question really comes down to how quickly people want to blow through the leveling content. If people want to rush, I myself will likely be trampling the roses instead of smelling them in an attempt to keep things unified.
Regardless, I do have every intention of pursuing whichever path (10 or 25) we have the numbers to support.
The real question is what we do between now and then. Many people grow bored with the game (some blame the guild for that subconsciously) and use raiding to alleviate that boredom. Raiding is the variety the game offers, aside from what we create ourselves (RPing).
Jabadue's SSC run needs to succeed in that respect, because aside from Karazhan and ZA, everything else is 25-man. There is no other option. Otherwise we're doing 10-mans for the next 6 months and folks will slowly drift away.
I do continually feel that folks new to raiding are not given a chance by many of our more experienced raiders. If there was a way to get full Kara gear within 10 minutes of reaching 70th they might have a shot. Otherwise I hear words like "filler" used.
Every week I make an effort to bring new people to karazhan. I believe Thanuist got 8 pieces of gear the first week in there. Eruadan is a top-notch healer and someone I've come to rely on at this point. Each time a new person reaches 70th, I figure out how I'm going to fit them into the next kara run. I am honestly running out of space and usually have overflow on fridays of 2-3 people.
Granted, that is fridays and many more people seem available that night. I know Jabadue has tried repeatedly to do the same thing with sundays, but the numbers are lower. All I'm suggesting is if a group of people (with a little tolerance) were to gather a core of solid folks and brings along those extras (actively seek them out, send them tells, don't rely on the website), that solid core would grow larger.
So when looking ahead at the next expansion, the question really comes down to how quickly people want to blow through the leveling content. If people want to rush, I myself will likely be trampling the roses instead of smelling them in an attempt to keep things unified.
Regardless, I do have every intention of pursuing whichever path (10 or 25) we have the numbers to support.
The real question is what we do between now and then. Many people grow bored with the game (some blame the guild for that subconsciously) and use raiding to alleviate that boredom. Raiding is the variety the game offers, aside from what we create ourselves (RPing).
Jabadue's SSC run needs to succeed in that respect, because aside from Karazhan and ZA, everything else is 25-man. There is no other option. Otherwise we're doing 10-mans for the next 6 months and folks will slowly drift away.
I do continually feel that folks new to raiding are not given a chance by many of our more experienced raiders. If there was a way to get full Kara gear within 10 minutes of reaching 70th they might have a shot. Otherwise I hear words like "filler" used.
Every week I make an effort to bring new people to karazhan. I believe Thanuist got 8 pieces of gear the first week in there. Eruadan is a top-notch healer and someone I've come to rely on at this point. Each time a new person reaches 70th, I figure out how I'm going to fit them into the next kara run. I am honestly running out of space and usually have overflow on fridays of 2-3 people.
Granted, that is fridays and many more people seem available that night. I know Jabadue has tried repeatedly to do the same thing with sundays, but the numbers are lower. All I'm suggesting is if a group of people (with a little tolerance) were to gather a core of solid folks and brings along those extras (actively seek them out, send them tells, don't rely on the website), that solid core would grow larger.