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[Cloudjumper]

4th Edition now huh? Man I am feeling old... :?

[Guest]

I see that there will be some info on races/classes in December, but does anyone have any inside info on what they'll be doing in that arena in 4ed?

[Sreng]

You know, I'm not the type to get bent out of shape by new things. I am often excited by new iterations of things that I already liked. Burning Crusade excited me, Lich King looks exciting, even when they made the transition from 2nd to 3rd (and then subsequently 3.5), I was excited.

But what's wrong with 3.5? I honestly feel like they got it right....

I play Warhammer and WH40k, and anyone who's been with either of those games for any amount of time can tell you how frequently they update their rules editions. I seriously hope that Wizards isn't headed in that direction with D&D. If they are, let's hope that each edition comes with changes for the better.

[Damoxian]

What was Wrong....was that anything outside of the core rule books with the TSR stamp on it....is basically garbage. and they need to recycle that garbage to make money.

Craig - Ironkingdoms 4 life yo!...no TSR

[Kosath]

Sadly, Damoxian is half correct (about recylcing... there are some gems among the garbage). Shillatae and I discussed it last night. They have essentially gone through all possible class books twice now and 4 (5?) editions of the monster manual. They're really only left with setting material and modules, which is apparently the strategy that killed off TSR in 2nd edition.

From a financial perspective it makes sense, but I do agree with Sreng in that I enjoy 3.5 at its core and think they got it mostly right... especially if you leave out a lot of the excess "garbage" that followed.

[Oryx]

hock: There was a release of WH40K after 1990?

[Guest]

hock: There was a release of WH40K after 1990?

I think he means the Codex's that are being released now, which are sort of like the Index Astartes.